From: Blackthorne Msg#: 65840 To: ** ALL ** Re: Okay, then... ---< msg 64360 from Blue Devil to ALL >--------------------- "Every since Blackthorne became kindler and gentler and sheltered Chas under his wings, this place has turned into a real pussy gallery..." -Ah, the transformation occured long before then, I think. I believe it's just now coming to fruition. Three unfortunate things have happened that are keeping my flames down... one, no one has really irked me enough to raise my pulse-- I get irritated and breathe a little blast every now and then, but nothing around here has really vexed me of late... two, believe it or not, I'm trying to preserve or create at least a facade of a less than cutthroat bbs, at least most of the time (as long as dealings are above board, this shouldn't be a problem)... and three, I've had an epiphany of sorts concerning bbs idiocy and elitism, etal. More on that later, I'd imagine. Right now, though, what's left of my digestive tract is burning like a fiery pit of hell, and I needed something to do... so following will be some amusing little snippets I ran across from the last couple of weeks. Hope some of them tickle your fancy at least a bit. Practice: I shall endeavor to prefix my comments with a serious of asterisks and keep my words indented, so as to separate them from quoted text. *b "Forgiveness carries no debt." (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? *** Lucky logging on Line #3! (N)onstop, (Q)uit, or [C]ontinue?(R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? Date: Wednesday, May 11, 1994 11:04pm /Nirvana From: Blackthorne Msg#: 65842 To: ** ALL ** Re: Epiphany 101 ---< msg 62369 from Dagarth to Kramer >--------------------- "Ya know why? Because I *am* better than you." ---< msg 64907 from Dagarth to Chastity >------------------- "CH>...not to be smart... And you certainly live up to THAT standard." *** {And herein lies the epiphany... notice that since the communications on a bbs are almost exclusively limited to the written word, the "best" users are pretty much the smartest or most well-learned ones... at least, in this environment, they can outgun the average Joe or Josephine. Unfortunately, these same BBS-Einsteins possess, in my experience, some of the most fragile feet of clay imaginable, and use bbs flaming as a substitute for real life satisfaction. Dag, I grant you this: you may be brilliant, well-adjusted, lucky, charming, and successful, but your constant reminders of those facts force me to pity you greatly-- someone who so desperately needs to take people down has to have some pretty serious shit he's having to deal with. *** {I quit indiscriminately flaming, even though doing so has cost me much of my reputation (but is that such a loss?) because I realized just because you have the gun doesn't mean you have to shoot whatever handy target presents itself. I still roll out the venom on occasion... but when I do, you can rest assured that, unlike in Dag's case, it is not for recreational purposes.} ---< msg 64611 from Babydoll to Chastity >------------------ "That just screams "FLAME ME!" on many, many different issues..." *** {And I commend you for not listening to the cries, at least in this instance. Even more commendable would be resisting the urge to bring it up at all-- what purpose does flashing the gun about serve? You know, if I happen to get a burr up my ass and return to my old ways, I have a feeling that I could hear "flame me" whispers coming from 75% of the messages I read. From all users.} *b (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? Date: Wednesday, May 11, 1994 11:05pm /Nirvana From: Blackthorne Msg#: 65843 To: ** ALL ** Re: Part 1 of nothing... ---< msg 61906 from Lizard to ALL >------------------------- "...If you are interested, leave E-mail to Sirum Bloodbane. I will no longer be on here (or at least I shouldn't). With finals coming on, I should have other priorities (not to mention I have my OWN BBS I should be dealing with)." ---< msg 63818 from Sorrow to ALL >------------------------- "...I decided on my "new" self a few days after making Sorrow." *** {Blew it, lameboy. Both accounts existed and were used simultaneously, as you (to your credit) admitted. This was obviousy a premeditated attempt to abandon one per- sona and switch to another... but lo, wait!} ---< msg 64005 from Sorrow to Chastity >-------------------- "I don't spend my life running away from problems, or finding a temporary cure to a bad choice I made earlier in life. You figure that out. I stand up for myself and refuse to run for safety like a coward. Besides, it was fun." *** {What was fun? Duping the userbase for a while with the Cosysop's assistance? Leaving behind the burden of Lizard? Nah, it couldn't be that last... that would kinda go against the quoted text, no? God forbid you get a reputation for shooting your mouth off indiscriminately.} *b (N)onstop, (Q)uit, or [C]ontinue? (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? Date: Wednesday, May 11, 1994 11:06pm /Nirvana From: Blackthorne Msg#: 65844 To: ** ALL ** Re: Intermission: Now serving Roast Admin. ---< msg 62173 from Autox to Blue Devil >----------------- "...And yet in the past week, we have had 2 legit users falsely convicted... Michael Thornton and Sorrow. And there have been others in the past. I don't think it's right." *** {I won't speak on the Thornton incident, as I am unsure of all the facts concening it, except to say it is indeed a shame. And it's gonna be a slow beast to change-- particularly in light of the second user mentioned. Admin handled the incident sloppily and irresponsibly, in my opinion-- either a definitive statement should have been made, or mouths should have been kept shut-- but shadows, half-truths, and hiding behind semantics certainly don't set a very bright example.} ---< msg 62062 from Autox to Dagarth >--------------------- "DA>...there ain't a DAMNED thing you can do about it... No, but I can...." *** {The infamous "arm-flexing" message... bluntly put, perhaps, but not out of line. This, Tox, was your opportunity to make a firm statement about user harassment, instead of leaving such an open-ended remark that begs to be leapt on.} ---< msg 62417 from Cosmo to Chastity >--------------------- "Where you've lost the reality of it all is in the fact that you don't realize that Autox and I are both Users as well as Admins... Inasmuch as that, like yourself, we have our own User-opinions. It's not my impression that "the sysop is defending Sorrow"; I think, moreso, that "Autox spoke his opinion on the subject". *** {Yeah, right... thread this message back to Tox's "arm- flexing", and tell me that the "No, but I can...." comment came from a USER.} *b (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? *** Blackthorne is paging you from Forums: Good evening. How's it going? (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? /p black Jeesi us H., Christman s man, Who lit a fire under you? ... Paging Blackthorne ... (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? Date: Wednesday, May 11, 1994 11:07pm /Nirvana From: Blackthorne Msg#: 65846 To: ** ALL ** Re: Second and Last chunk of Nothing... ---< msg 64005 from Sorrow to Chastity >-------------------- "...Had no clue. You see, I never read the forums until I came back. I was only on here to chat and be merry." *** {Don't you have to *leave* before you can come back?} ---< msg 59831 from Sorrow to Cosmo >----------------------- Message not quoted due to irrelevance. Message was posted at 02:58 on 26 April 1994. ---< msg 60278 from Lizard to Dagarth >--------------------- Message not quoted due to irrelevance. Message was posted at 15:11 on 26 April 1994. *** {Hmmm... Sorrow, the new incarnation, seems to have been active while Lizard still was. In my humble opinion, that does qualify as dupeing. At least you admit you enjoyed a brief period as a dupe, a fact certain elements were very ardent in denying. Unfortunately, it seems to decry your "came back" statement.} *b (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? *** Blackthorne is paging you from Forums: Heh.. it's been a long time coming. How many of them have you cleared? (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? /p Black I am on am one past the Tox flame, on to Sorrow #2 ... Paging Blackthorne ... (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? /p black I gotta cap this .... ... Paging Blackthorne ... (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? Date: Wednesday, May 11, 1994 11:08pm /Nirvana From: Blackthorne Msg#: 65847 To: ** ALL ** Re: *b is confused... but what's new? ---< msg 64834 from Babydoll to Cosmo >------------------- Message not quoted due to length. Message concerned yet another failed marriage/relationship of Babydoll's father. *** {I don't know why, but I find your laissez faire attitude about dad's marital status odd, considering how fervently concerned you are with Chastity's. I'm sure it will warm her heart to know you care more for her you do for the man who sired you. *b (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? *** Blackthorne is paging you from Forums: Oh shit... don't wanna discourage ya, but you have about a half doz to go. (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? Date: Wednesday, May 11, 1994 11:09pm /Nirvana From: Blackthorne Msg#: 65848 To: ** ALL ** Re: Gee, you were and I weren't. Damn. ---< msg 59331 from Babydoll to Dok >----------------------- "But, I think it's one of those "You had to be there to understand just what IS going on".... Ignorance is bliss... *** {Hmmm... I have to wonder how many of Chastity's, etal's, doings you were in attendance for-- certainly you would follow your own advice and not comment without having all the facts, right? BBS's are kinda sad, with their own ecosystem-- gossip seems to be the greatest pastime. (N)onstop, (Q)uit, or [C]ontinue? *** {Think of it, Tox-- this thing you've sunk major bucks and time into is nothing more than an electronice beauty shop for nerds! *** {I realize it is too much to ask... but I think all of the userbase would be better off if we all chilled just a bit. Cut some slack-- we all have demons in our past, and they sometimes make us behave in odd ways. *b (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? *** Blackthorne is paging you from Forums: Including some nastiness near the end. Well I haven't seen my m name yet so I don't jhave have to kick your pansy ass... ... Paging Blackthorne ... (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? *** Blackthorne is paging you from Forums: But I mean it all in the *nicest* possible way, of course. (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? /p ba lack Well, thank you for rising to the occaision.... ... Paging Blackthorne ... (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? *** Blackthorne is paging you from Forums: Heh.. do it anyway. Your name was in the first message and in the next to last! (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? /p black Yeah but you did wan hat a *ASKED* I *ASKED* for.... ... Paging Blackthorne ... (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? Date: Wednesday, May 11, 1994 11:10pm /Nirvana From: Blackthorne Msg#: 65849 To: ** ALL ** Re: Gawd, I'm not believing this... *** {Notes from the "Geezus, PLEASE tell me he/she didn't say that..." department.} ---< msg 64520 from Dagarth to Chastity >----------------- "...I am constantly amazed by your complete lack of "class". I know of no other person that would be so careless of people's feelings..." ---< msg 64586 from Sweet Jane to Chastity >-------------- "What are talking about, Chas?? Leaving? Hmmmmmm, sounds like your kinda place, though.......based on the way you react to the juves HERE anyway." ---< msg 61023 from Cosmo to Freshman >------------------ "My favorite part: COS: "Freshman, you haven't you been logging on in your sister's account, have you?" FM: "No. I *never* log on in Crimson's account..." Cosmo (*beat* that dead horse, Igor! BEAT IT!!)" *** {Cosmo once again rubs Freshman's nose in the mess associated with her masterminding Operation Fake- Crimson. One wonders, however, how long our esteemed Cosysop would tolerate continued nose-rubbing concerning certain intel I've seen and heard in which he averred that Sorrow was neither Dupe or that he was formerly Lizard. Knowing the subject, I would say he would endure it forever-- he's a hardshelled tortoise. Point being, in light of recent Admin inconsistancies, Cosmo would do well not to cast stones.} *b (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? *** Blackthorne is paging you from Forums: When you get to the Babydoll's dad's marriage message, tell me if you think it's too harsh. y theory is if you wave you r shit in people's faces they have a right to e tell you it stinks... *** Blackthorne is paging you from Forums: That's true... we're all just puppets in the Wyatt Continuum, eh? ... Paging Blackthorne ... /p black Or btte etter yet, when someone invites you into their propbl blems they whou should think first about t what kind of guest you will make... ... Paging Blackthorne ... (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? Date: Wednesday, May 11, 1994 11:11pm /Nirvana From: Blackthorne Msg#: 65850 To: ** ALL ** Re: Angels we have heard, on high! Loudly braying... ---< msg 61630 from Dagarth to Blue Devil >---------------- "I know that Blue Devil used alot of big words in this post, so I will translate it for ya, Gambit: Practice what you preach." ---< msg 59333 from Babydoll to Chasity >------------------ "Please. You did the crime, now you gotta pay the time...." *** {There were numerous other examples to quote, but I'm too lazy to repeat a pattern that will quickly become tedious. I just have one question, something that has been nagging at me for quite some time: Just who in the hell appointed you, Dagarth, as the Judge Advocate of All That is Pure and Proper, with Babydoll as your able assistant? Not that the entirety of TCE! isn't fortunate to be living under the auspices of the umbrella of protection your Guardian Angelships provide. I simply would like to get the name, so maybe I can put in an application as well. *b (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? *** Blackthorne is paging you from Forums: Hate to flame at her and Dag, but if they can't handle it, fuck em. I've been getting more and more burnt out on them for a long time. (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? /p black I'd tell you my opinion, but only somewhere where it can't be capped.... ... Paging Blackthorne ... (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? [B I don't understand. Type 'X' to return to the main Forum menu. Otherwise... (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? Date: Wednesday, May 11, 1994 11:13pm /Nirvana From: Blackthorne Msg#: 65851 To: ** ALL ** Re: Who says I'm prejudiced? ---< msg UNKNOWN from Wired Child to No one in particular >---------- Message not quoted due to being nonexistant. *** {I would like to include examples of hypocrisy, double dealing, and outright viciousness on the part of users like Wired Child, Diogenes, etc, but I can find no worthy subjects. Readers are encouraged to offer their own samplings, of course. *b (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? Date: Wednesday, May 11, 1994 11:15pm /Nirvana From: Blackthorne Msg#: 65854 To: ** ALL ** Re: Guess we'll call it a night... ---< msg 59106 from Falcon to Autox >---------------------- "Although in the long run, hopefully we will eventually be able to trust each other again..." *** {Here's hoping with ya. Though, to be honest, I think we've past at least one point of no return-- TCE! will never have the innocence it had early on. The price one pays for progress, I warrant. But whatever-- perhaps we will come to the point where juvenile power trips and hate and suspicion are spectres of the past. Attitudes must change, however-- it amuses the hell out of me that I've lost face since returning for not being hateful enough. That's cool, I have more than enough face as it is. (N)onstop, (Q)uit, or [C]ontinue? *b "Now some people say that you shouldn't tempt fate And for them I wouldn't disagree But I never learned anything from playing it safe I say fate shouldn't tempt me." (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or [N]ext message? *** Blackthorne is paging you from Forums: Smart policy... I'm not gonna posture about me not breaking confidences-- how bout just discussing it over dinner tomorrow? I'll leave my pocket recorder at home.